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krm398
12-09-2008, 10:52 AM
We have been talking for a long time about more immersion in game. Some love it some not, why not see what interest there might be in an "Immersion Mod" with things like huds back, of one kind or another, and things to do when you dock, maybe not getting out and walking, but things like..
you dock at a business, and a pip pops up with the station manager who asks what you want. Or on a trading station there could be a row of maybe 6 that let you chose who to talk to, bartender, watress, security,trader, each one would be clickable, and a menu for things to ask, say, would be seen. Maybe even get volunteers to write comments for our pirate friends, and volunteers to do voices.

I know I'd help, but I have NO experience in doing a mod other than some small writing, so what do you think? Comments and discussion wanted, but NO swearing on the forums,lol.

kevso101
12-09-2008, 11:09 AM
Hiya krm398,
personally i love the idea of a more immersive universe with more interaction with other people in it all be it the AI. The addition of other characters wandering around the universe is a great idea, perhaps you could interact with them on missions a bit like Saya in the ES plot. Talking to non plot characters could also be good, like barmen etc, this would give us the opertunity to include clues or help for missions and the like and build a believable universe where other things are happening around us and perhaps effecting the game, for instance... in conversation with a NPC he mentions that solar stroms are predicted in a certain sector and that actually happens opening up trade opertunitites or protection missions or whatever, not that player has to do anything about them

Just my two cents worth :)

Kevso :)

krm398
12-09-2008, 01:22 PM
One of the things I liked about xtension was the chance , strictly by random, of having someone offer you a job escorting them through a few sectors. They were just out in space doing their job when they saw you, usually at a gate, and they offered you work. You could approve or deny, but things like that, with the new graphics would be a whole new game. I understand we havnt even seen TC yet and I'm sure its great, and some of the things people have asked about are in it, like crew for ships,(marines in this case) with real names, not marine #2..but a name when you find them and hire them. This is a great start, and if someone could get a few people together and add just a little at a time, not like a huge thing like xtm, those guys were nuts..(and great)..just add something once and a while, like a false patch or something.

I'd like to see a pic pop up where you buy a lot, maybe a factory security man who first gives you a little speach about searching your ship for contraband, then later, he says, "well you know what I mean" instead, then still later he starts his speach and stops saying,"oh its you,hows it going?" nothing big but a little friendly banter, maybe a paranid TL captain openly harassing you when you pass, or someone giving you heck for coming too close at a gate..that would be great and more immersive.

kevso101
12-09-2008, 02:01 PM
Sure more police activity in the universe would be great, lets face it they don't do a lot atm :)

Phlt
12-09-2008, 07:32 PM
Sure more police activity in the universe would be great, lets face it they don't do a lot atm :)

This is something that NH Mod is doing atm (ISF). :)

kevso101
12-09-2008, 07:35 PM
Yeah i know and love it... also love azz's Hacking software :grin:

Good idea's tend to spread from mod to mod in some small way without being a copy hopefully.

I'm hoping that X3:TC will be a much darker universe,no not dimmer suns:lol:, but a more sinister place.

Kevso :)

krm398
13-09-2008, 10:01 AM
Yes, many mods seem to be working towards the same goal, I personaly played the NH mod and Philts right. It has more police action and its a darker game, with huge pirate activity. The new mission director makes some of these missions easier, I think, like having a person ask you in space to do a mission, also in NH. Thats more immersive, we dont want to dump unwanted bother on everyone as they fly, but an ocasional call from a ship offering missions, or maybe a random call for help from a station, with a prize for killing all the Khaak, or whatever, something I hoped for a long time ago instead of losing faction trying to help.

Another thing that might be good is actual bridge scenes on cap ships, we know you dont fly high - speed in a cap ship, and you never see whats behind you or along the sides, so give us a small bridge scene, not a lot of interaction to start, just a background with maybe someones head or back sitting at a console in front of you, you'll still do all the flying, but you may hear something like,'weapons firing' or ' aproaching gate' from time to time, making a cap ship (M7 or bigger) a new experience. Maybe even things like 'shields are failing', or 'shields down to....' the bigger the ship, the more people around you, maybe 4 on an M2..with one person standing, watching,(the exo?) and the rest sitting. It sounds like a lot, but these simple bridge scenes were done way back there in other games, so with todays technology why not?

kevso101
13-09-2008, 10:18 AM
With the new mission director hopefully a lot of these things will possible, certainly being offered missions in space already is with the current MD. Bridges for the capital ships is already possible but will take someone with modelling skills to add. There are some great modellers out there and i'm sure they will turn thier talents to it.

Lets see what TC brings us and what the new MD offers :grin:

Personaly i can't wait, exciting times ahead for the X-Universe :)

Kevso :)

krm398
14-09-2008, 10:16 AM
Absolutly true, heres to X3..the Final X of the series, we all hope for the greatest of games, and we'll soon see.

Edit:

Just had a thought, there ARE some thing out there for X3, available in the mods area that can help with this, so maybe make a list of things that give more immersion and add it here untill we see whats coming. I'm sure there wont be huds in game, but we'll see. Theres a lot of good stuff for open use there and the stuff we are asking for later could be added, some people dont have the time, to go look and find things so I'll think about it, this doesnt have to be an actual mod, just a place to find more immersive adds for the game, well we'll see.

Edit: Double post removed - kevso101

krm398
20-01-2009, 11:10 AM
Had a recent discussion with some friends about immersion, they mentioned that starting new things, like walking in ships and stations, could be done with just the first person camera, no avitar.
Starting out slowly just to get it in game, like on a ship...you walk to a elevator,it closes, you get out in the hanger bay and walk to your ship, click, and away you go. Not the 'reality details' we hope for, but a start, then could be done better later, if the idea was always to add to it, so planning. Could do the same with stations, a office scene with a desk, better design as you make more money, and better office scene, and if you go out, elevator or transporter, then your in a ship. Only need to show maybe 3 rooms in a station...office/hanger/conference room...thats it..no avatar at first, just movement.

PS thought this was dead didnt you?lol

NovaCatt
03-02-2009, 01:50 PM
Had a recent discussion with some friends about immersion, they mentioned that starting new things, like walking in ships and stations, could be done with just the first person camera, no avitar.
Starting out slowly just to get it in game, like on a ship...you walk to a elevator,it closes, you get out in the hanger bay and walk to your ship, click, and away you go. Not the 'reality details' we hope for, but a start, then could be done better later, if the idea was always to add to it, so planning. Could do the same with stations, a office scene with a desk, better design as you make more money, and better office scene, and if you go out, elevator or transporter, then your in a ship. Only need to show maybe 3 rooms in a station...office/hanger/conference room...thats it..no avatar at first, just movement.

PS thought this was dead didnt you?lol

Hiya Peeps, :wave:

@ KRM....
So this is where you were talking about, is it? :?

@ Everyone else....
I'm one those friends he's mentioned above... ;)
We were discussing how great it would be to actually get out of your ship when docked at a station or on a cap ship & actually have a scene of an office sort of thing with an elevator taking you from the hanger to the office/bar/what-have-you, rather like in Wing Commander-Privateer....

In Privateer, you had planetary landings (you saw your ship heading towards the planet & then your ship was on the landing pad) & had access to various places such as a Ship Dealer where you could buy a bigger/better ship, upgrade your ship's engines for more energy to power the guns & shields, upgrade your shields for more protection, upgrade your ship's armour to provide better protection against laser & missile damage, upgrade/replace your guns & actually see them on your ship after you purchased them, upgrade your scanner/radar & actually see it mounted on your ship (unlike in the "X" series where one gun shape equals ALL guns & invisible scanner/radar), some other places you could visit were the bar where you could talk to the bartender & listen to rumours or talk to a fixer (only three* in the game), visit the merchants or merc guild for a mission, purchase cargo from the warehouse, check the BBS for missions...

Anyway, that's the sort of thing we discussed.... ;)

Cheers & Thranx

PS * = Well four actually, but one was a replacement for the original pirate fixer who had you smuggling drugs for them & after you'd nearly been killed by the confeds & police a few times, made you a smugglers hold in your ship that couldn't be scanned.... ;)