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zeddius
04-01-2013, 07:53 AM
Hi,

have a couple of questions....

1) Can anyone point me in the direction for where to buy trade MK3 software? I have search 30 sectors and cant find a place that sells them..

2) My starting relation with split/paranid are so bad that i cant enter their core sectors, and it seems like it takes so long to gain reputation by killing pirates in the single border sector i can enter. Was wondering if there is any more efficient way of gaining reputation.


thanks

2Blackhawk
04-01-2013, 08:16 AM
1 iirc MK3 was always a speciality of the Teladi, they will have it for sure.
2 how about trading or doing transport or any mission that is available in this sector (just look before where it will lead you and if you can access the target sector)

Loriel
04-01-2013, 10:08 AM
My starting relation with split/paranid are so bad that i cant enter their core sectors, and it seems like it takes so long to gain reputation by killing pirates in the single border sector i can enter. Was wondering if there is any more efficient way of gaining reputation.

Somewhat boring, but the "best" way I found to improve reputation was to sell a large shipload of ecells - one unit at a time. This is very effective between reputation levels of abouit -1 and +2.

If you can enter the border sectors, but can't dock or trade with the stations (as I currently can't with Paranid) then this won't be available yet, so finding missions for that race (not just in their own sector) seems to be the way to go. Beware of doing missions for trade stations - often the missioin-givers are pirates, so doing missions for them will probably improve your pirate reputation rather than the relevant race reputation.

Loriel

code99
04-01-2013, 11:49 AM
1) Can anyone point me in the direction for where to buy trade MK3 software? I have search 30 sectors and cant find a place that sells them..

Teladi have em, go to one of their equipment and buy. Do note its over 500k credits.

insolent1
04-01-2013, 12:20 PM
Destroying hostiles in their space and trading is the best way to get rep with a race until you reach around rank 4, killing boron in split space is also something to consider but your boron rep will suffer.
As soon as you get docking rights in their sectors get some sector traders in there as you will make money and slowly befriend them with minimal effort.

zeddius
05-01-2013, 12:05 AM
NEW INFO:

This doesnt seem right.

According to ingame relation menu, my relation to the Teladi are unholy something at 48%, while on the xtm one i am -2 at 76.

What i do now is i take a couple of patrol missions, kill about 20 ships in the teladi border sector, and i get no increase in reputation.....I can buy the teladi licence from the trade port, but not enter core sectors....if i trade some smal goods, like buying 10 swamp plants i get a small increase....to 49% and -2 at 77 from the xtm one...


Seems like killing pirates gives you no rep increase in teladi border sector....

Loriel
05-01-2013, 12:14 AM
Seems like killing pirates gives you no rep increase in teladi border sector....

Correct - the Teladi aren't hostile with pirates.

Loriel

code99
05-01-2013, 07:29 AM
Correct - the Teladi aren't hostile with pirates.

Loriel

And yet they keep fighting (teladi and pirates) in my game :)

K.J.
05-01-2013, 10:42 AM
watch out for khaakclusters in teladi space. Teladi are grateful if you remove them - saves them credits ^^

zeddius
05-01-2013, 10:59 AM
Well, right now there are alot of suggestions that you need to set up sector trader in Teladi space. However :

1) This can only be bought in Teladi equipment docks in teladi core sectors......
2) Teladi core sectors are closed due to low rep


Killing pirates in Teladi space dont increase rep, which means no point in doing fighting missions.....All that is left is manual trading in a single available Teladi core sector, which takes ages. Imho this is not fun gameplay. I dont wanne spend hours of selling items one buy one to even get access to the game...

Had it been possible to buy an MK3 trade somewhere else, for instance in Argon space this would have changed things, cause then i could have set up a sector trader in Teladi border sector...

Dillpickle
05-01-2013, 11:36 AM
Even with -3 race rep you will still find members of their race on stations in other race sectors offering you missions - these will raise your rep.

Vhyle
05-01-2013, 12:16 PM
I've done sector defense missions in Teladi border sectors, and have gained rep with them. I've also done convoy escort missions for teladi vessels and gained rep. It's normally what I look for to do when I get my first M3/3+ is to get my Teladi rep up so I can set up a couple sector traders there.

If you are combat inclined, look for the ones I mentioned. It's a little slow, but you make money, have the possibility for bails/loot, and gain combat experience.

zeddius
05-01-2013, 12:36 PM
I've done sector defense missions in Teladi border sectors, and have gained rep with them. I've also done convoy escort missions for teladi vessels and gained rep. It's normally what I look for to do when I get my first M3/3+ is to get my Teladi rep up so I can set up a couple sector traders there.

If you are combat inclined, look for the ones I mentioned. It's a little slow, but you make money, have the possibility for bails/loot, and gain combat experience.

Are you sure this is correct. I had a -2 rep with them, and did 2 sector defence missions, killing about 20 ships, and the reputation didnt increase any, was still -2 at 76 something. Problem also, if you look for escort missions, they tend to go into Teladi core sectors which i cant enter.....


Btw, could you buy the Teladi security Licence with a negative rep ? (-2). i could, and that seems abit strange, cause I had to increase my argon rep high before i could buy the argon licence....

babioraz
05-01-2013, 04:17 PM
don't want to spoil anything to anyone so i'll put this in spoiler

superstitious revenue is the teladi sector where u can buy trade software mk3 even if your rep is negative with teladi. What i did... I bought a fastest discovery ship, flew through all hostile teladi sectors to superstitious revenue and then i just used another ship with jumpdrive to jump into destination sector and bought that software. But beware! Teladi won't like u flying through their sectors so they will issue your hunt :)

zeddius
05-01-2013, 09:37 PM
Well, i have fixed it now, got my rep up and bought the MK3 the old way.

What i did was fly around in a cargo ship doing manual runs...Doesnt look like it matters if you sell 1 or many items, i got the feel that its about the money used in the trade. Took me about 2 hours but i got the rep up to 0 and could enter their core sectors.

Vhyle
06-01-2013, 03:36 AM
Are you sure this is correct. I had a -2 rep with them, and did 2 sector defence missions, killing about 20 ships, and the reputation didnt increase any, was still -2 at 76 something. Problem also, if you look for escort missions, they tend to go into Teladi core sectors which i cant enter.....


Btw, could you buy the Teladi security Licence with a negative rep ? (-2). i could, and that seems abit strange, cause I had to increase my argon rep high before i could buy the argon licence....

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's correct. I may have had that security license as well when I was doing them, which may have gotten me the rep. I also forgot: I had Yaki Armada going as well, and this was in 1.2 so I'm more than likely using out of date knowledge. Sorry Zeddius.

Trading is probably the best way to raise the rep, which is what you already did.